• Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe
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      Non-tonal simply means the denotation isn’t carried by tone, not that users of the language don’t use tone. It’s an interesting distinction.

      John McWhorter has a few courses in The Great Courses catalog about language - its pretty fascinating stuff. He covers things like tonal languages, and how even for a linguist like himself, they’re tough to learn.

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      True, otherwise it would be monotone, though some people speak in a monotone voice that can put you to sleep.

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        Me as a native finnish speaker making every english speaker in a meeting unsure of my meanig

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            Finnish people are stereotyped to sound monotone, enunciate clearly, speak directly, and tersely. This makes them seem unfriendly.

            And then they expect you to stay 3 m away from them at all times, which intensifies their seeming unfriendliness.

            At least these are the memes.

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            As others explained, finnish is pretty flat and that carries to the other languages I speak. To english mostly, I refuse to speak swedish

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              From what I’ve learned from memes is that there is “enmity” between Swedes and Finns, am I correct?

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                I wouldn’t say so. Finns might feel like the little brother and feel unease about that. In practice there are lots of personal and commersial ties. Many have family in Sweden, me included.

                We don’t expect Sweden to send troops if Russia tries to invade, planes and ships, maybe the odd submarine but no troops. At least that seems to be the sentiment