• CannonFodder@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Why else would trump destroy nato? It simple makes zero sense for security purposes. It’s hard to believe, even with the orange moron that he would cause war as a temper tantrum because he didn’t get a peace prize.

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      7 hours ago

      You are correct in that why would the US destroy NATO. The entire point is that the people in power in the US have decided that EU is now subservient enough to the US (and since the blowup of Nordstream 2 energetically dependent too) that they will simply do nothing when the US takes Greenland in whatever form that takes.

      Greenland becomes strategically important when arctic ice melts and new shipping routes open between China and Europe, and the US plans to control this more directly than it does now.

      Trump does not have the power to decide geopolitical policy of the US, if he went against US interests he would quickly be removed. This is not Trump’s personal designs (maybe the messaging is but not the core events), this is the US betraying yet again its allies as it has always done.

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        7 hours ago

        But who is it that cares about US interests in this context? The billionaires aren’t really rooted in the US; they have assets and control resources around the world. NATO enforced control is good for them, I would think ; and there’s literally nothing stopping the US from using its own base already in Greenland to project power throughout the arctic. Attacking Greenland will destroy NATO. The destruction of NATO will push the Europe to align more with Russia and China. The US will lose power in Europe as its bases there are severed. This will also mean less power in the Middle East. If trump continues on this path, he will take over Canada, and that will lead to an insergency throughout the US that will hurt everyone including the billionaires for decades.

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          7 hours ago

          I clearly won’t convince you and I don’t think you’ll convince me either, so let’s each guess based on their own ideas:

          A) Trump destroys NATO through whatever form of invasion of Greenland

          B) The US gains greater control over Greenland above what they have now (whatever form it may take) and EU keeps bootlicking the US

          I’m betting on B), as a tankie. I wish it were A) because NATO is close as it gets to literally Satan, but I don’t believe the powers in the US are going to waste the EU influence in its most subservient moment in decades.

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            4 hours ago

            The EU won’t just give up Greenland. An invasion by the U.S. will trigger defence provisions and the EU will do what it takes. And the EU has nukes. Be careful what you wish for.

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      23 hours ago

      He is just the right idiot for the job. His megalomaniac narcicissm combined with his utter stupidity makes it easy to nudge him in the right direction, because he is too dumb to even realise that he is destroying the empire he longs for.