Independent Persian has received messages from protestors within Iran via Starlink satellite that describe a ‘war-like situation’. Amirhossein Miresmaeili reports
So yeah, that tweet is quite the smoking gun about Mossad being now involved with the protest (which isn’t surprising, sabotage is part of any external intelligence toolset).
Now to say that everything is because of them/the CIA, and not because of the systemic corruption of the Iranian regime, I find it quite far fetched, and quite dishonest toward the Iranian manifestants who do have legitimate matters to protest about (and aren’t foreign agents).
I’d tell Mossad to go fuck themselves, and let the Iranian people do their revolution however they see fit, but on the other hand, there is so much difference in the regime weaponry compared to the manifestants ones, I’d consider Mossad involvement, if it make the protest more likely to succeed, a necessary evil.
You think the fact that the CIA has conducted multiple color revolutions in the area, and in fact conducted a full regime change in Iran in living memory doesn’t lend credibility to the claim? How about the fact that Israel literally launched a war against Iran not 12 months ago, killing civilians, politicians, scientists, etc?
At this point, it strains credulity that any of y’all think that it’s NOT being organized by the US.
Just read about NED, color revolutions, the foreign policy of sanctions - particularly Kissinger’s thoughts. It’s not like history started on Dec 11th.
I’m not saying it is not credible, just that if a regime change is really what the Iranian people wish, having the support of an evil country doesn’t change their legitimate aspirations.
Unfortunately this is impossible to know with the current regime, so the only solution is to topple it and hope for the best. But ultimately the Iranian people have to be the ones to choose, not the mollahs, not the US, not Israel.
No. You’re upside down. It’s not that the Iranian people have the support of an evil regime. It’s that if the Iranian people succeed in toppling their government, Israel will dominate the Iranian people and the Iranian people will not be able to express their will. And when the Israelis and USians put their puppets in place, if the Iranians protest, the they’ll be brutally suppressed and the death toll will be massive.
The only solution is to topple the aggressors the first. Then and only then is mass Iranian self determination able to be secured.
Well, they are already getting brutally suppressed, what difference would it make? There are no chance of regime change right now, so batter take a chance for improvement than wait like a good sacrificial lamb for better days that will never happen as long as the mollah are in power.
A screenshot can’t be called a proof in this age. Give an archived link from a trustworthy source. Beside, I don’t see any date on that screenshot, which is usually seen on tweets, which may mean it was either doctered (well, it was, at least to add the red line), or straight false.
But let’s consider this as valid for a second. Israel and Iran are enemies, of course they have intelligence officers in their enemy population. That’s intelligence 101. The same is true the other way, there are probably multiple Iranian cells in Israel, the US, and most NATO countries.
But to dismiss any unrest on that given fact is absurd. Sure Israel will capitalise on that because it is in their interest to see a change of regime in Iran, but they can’t trigger such uprising from just intelligence cells, or you’d see such protest about everywhere in the world.
Its a bit rich that you want hard evidence but will mindlessly believe what mainstream media says about Iran when the MSM has been gaslighting us on the genocide in Gaza, the Al Qaeda takeover of Syria and the kidnapping of the President of Venezuela.
Classic CIA I’d say. Wasn’t the first time. Probably won’t be the last (unfortunately).
The kidnapping is a fact, and I personally condemn that act. On the other hand, considering his crackdown on the opposition, I don’t think he was democratically legitimate. I wish for the Venezuela people to be able to elect someone without being coerced.
The genocide is too, and I wish our leaders were ready to tell the US to eat shit (I’m an European), but truth is we cannot yet. It will probably take a good decade, but with Donnie and his goons in the US, we are kinda motivated to do so lately.
So yeah, the Hammas chosed the worst timing for their attack, and they fucked up their communication badly enough to make them easy target to Israel propaganda. In ant cases, they have to take their share of blame for what followed.
So as you admit yourself having ne proof whatsoever except a vague feeling the CIA may once again be on the move due to having done destabilization work more than 60 years ago, a possibly doctored tweet, and some casual logical fallacies.
OK, I respect your efforts to engage but you need to see the bigger picture here.
Iran is seen by Zionists as the head of the snake, the strategic backstop for supporting Palestinian liberation and resisting israel hegemony in the region and since Obama it has been the subject of
JCPOA exit
“maximum pressure”. The most sanctioned nation on Earth
assassinations, sabotage
coordinated protest narratives
constant threat of military escalation, and of course
a decapitation strike by Israel last June
Even before then Bush II labeled it part of the “axis of evil” and primed for regime change after Iraq.
Look into Israeli and US policy papers like the Oded Plan (1982) the “Clean Break” (1996) and the Brookings Institute Paper “Which Path to Persia?” in 2009. These deal with the dismemberment of states in the Middle East along sectarian lines to strengthen Israel. The last one deals.explicitly with pathways to regime change.in Iran.
If you dont understand the context you will only ever take these flashpoints at face value when they are being used to manufacture consent for wars of aggression.
Yeah sure… I suppose you have proof of that? Or did you just follow a script/prompt?
Mossad literally tweeted it themselves.
Link?
https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-881733
Thank you for providing a reliable source.
So yeah, that tweet is quite the smoking gun about Mossad being now involved with the protest (which isn’t surprising, sabotage is part of any external intelligence toolset).
Now to say that everything is because of them/the CIA, and not because of the systemic corruption of the Iranian regime, I find it quite far fetched, and quite dishonest toward the Iranian manifestants who do have legitimate matters to protest about (and aren’t foreign agents).
I’d tell Mossad to go fuck themselves, and let the Iranian people do their revolution however they see fit, but on the other hand, there is so much difference in the regime weaponry compared to the manifestants ones, I’d consider Mossad involvement, if it make the protest more likely to succeed, a necessary evil.
You think the fact that the CIA has conducted multiple color revolutions in the area, and in fact conducted a full regime change in Iran in living memory doesn’t lend credibility to the claim? How about the fact that Israel literally launched a war against Iran not 12 months ago, killing civilians, politicians, scientists, etc?
At this point, it strains credulity that any of y’all think that it’s NOT being organized by the US.
Just read about NED, color revolutions, the foreign policy of sanctions - particularly Kissinger’s thoughts. It’s not like history started on Dec 11th.
I’m not saying it is not credible, just that if a regime change is really what the Iranian people wish, having the support of an evil country doesn’t change their legitimate aspirations.
Unfortunately this is impossible to know with the current regime, so the only solution is to topple it and hope for the best. But ultimately the Iranian people have to be the ones to choose, not the mollahs, not the US, not Israel.
No. You’re upside down. It’s not that the Iranian people have the support of an evil regime. It’s that if the Iranian people succeed in toppling their government, Israel will dominate the Iranian people and the Iranian people will not be able to express their will. And when the Israelis and USians put their puppets in place, if the Iranians protest, the they’ll be brutally suppressed and the death toll will be massive.
The only solution is to topple the aggressors the first. Then and only then is mass Iranian self determination able to be secured.
Well, they are already getting brutally suppressed, what difference would it make? There are no chance of regime change right now, so batter take a chance for improvement than wait like a good sacrificial lamb for better days that will never happen as long as the mollah are in power.
I guess Mike Pompeo tweeting about it on X was just a conspiracy theory.
A screenshot can’t be called a proof in this age. Give an archived link from a trustworthy source. Beside, I don’t see any date on that screenshot, which is usually seen on tweets, which may mean it was either doctered (well, it was, at least to add the red line), or straight false.
But let’s consider this as valid for a second. Israel and Iran are enemies, of course they have intelligence officers in their enemy population. That’s intelligence 101. The same is true the other way, there are probably multiple Iranian cells in Israel, the US, and most NATO countries. But to dismiss any unrest on that given fact is absurd. Sure Israel will capitalise on that because it is in their interest to see a change of regime in Iran, but they can’t trigger such uprising from just intelligence cells, or you’d see such protest about everywhere in the world.
The CIA also overthrew their President in 1953.
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/31/690363402/how-the-cia-overthrew-irans-democracy-in-four-days
Its a bit rich that you want hard evidence but will mindlessly believe what mainstream media says about Iran when the MSM has been gaslighting us on the genocide in Gaza, the Al Qaeda takeover of Syria and the kidnapping of the President of Venezuela.
Classic CIA I’d say. Wasn’t the first time. Probably won’t be the last (unfortunately).
The kidnapping is a fact, and I personally condemn that act. On the other hand, considering his crackdown on the opposition, I don’t think he was democratically legitimate. I wish for the Venezuela people to be able to elect someone without being coerced.
The genocide is too, and I wish our leaders were ready to tell the US to eat shit (I’m an European), but truth is we cannot yet. It will probably take a good decade, but with Donnie and his goons in the US, we are kinda motivated to do so lately.
So yeah, the Hammas chosed the worst timing for their attack, and they fucked up their communication badly enough to make them easy target to Israel propaganda. In ant cases, they have to take their share of blame for what followed.
So as you admit yourself having ne proof whatsoever except a vague feeling the CIA may once again be on the move due to having done destabilization work more than 60 years ago, a possibly doctored tweet, and some casual logical fallacies.
Where is the “trust me, bro” ?
OK, I respect your efforts to engage but you need to see the bigger picture here.
Iran is seen by Zionists as the head of the snake, the strategic backstop for supporting Palestinian liberation and resisting israel hegemony in the region and since Obama it has been the subject of
Even before then Bush II labeled it part of the “axis of evil” and primed for regime change after Iraq.
Look into Israeli and US policy papers like the Oded Plan (1982) the “Clean Break” (1996) and the Brookings Institute Paper “Which Path to Persia?” in 2009. These deal with the dismemberment of states in the Middle East along sectarian lines to strengthen Israel. The last one deals.explicitly with pathways to regime change.in Iran.
If you dont understand the context you will only ever take these flashpoints at face value when they are being used to manufacture consent for wars of aggression.