• CircaV@lemmy.ca
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    24 hours ago

    LOL working class voted for Brexit, twice. How’s that going for you UK?

    Edit: Working class also voted for Thatcher, who annihilated unions.

  • Obinice@lemmy.world
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    I agree with most of these points, but this one stood out as nonsense:

    Keir Starmer’s government is now probably the most hated in living memory.

    Besides the fact that the likes of Thatcher’s government is still very much within living memory, even if we just look at just the recent past 20 years… The current Labour government are more hated than our recent Tory government, that we had for years and became so reviled that there was talk it may collapse for good? …Really?

    I don’t buy that at all. Sure, there are plenty of things to be mad at Starmer and the current lot about, I agree, but I see far less hatred for them than I did the likes of Cameron, Theresa May, and Boris Johnson, and their ilk. Faaaaar less.

    Anyway, great read besides that bizarrely inaccurate statement, thanks for sharing :-)

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      Starmer, at least according to polling data, is less popular than all of them because he doesn’t appeal to any of them. He isn’t right enough for the Tories, Reform, or centre-right labour supporters, he’s not left enough for core labour voters nor left labour voters. He was too harsh on Israel for the right, and too harsh on Palestine for the left. He has pissed off every possible political ideologue and everyone in the middle is just hearing about how pissed off everyone is. He could not have spent his political capital in a worse way than he has. I don’t actually think people hate him. I think it’s just that noone likes him. Say what you will about Boris, Truss, Sunak, Cameron, May, they all had their detractors but they actually had allies, or people to whom they were at least trying to appeal. Starmer doesn’t have anyone, and it will be his downfall.

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        19 hours ago

        Ahh yes I see what you mean, you put it well. Starmer’s government isn’t hated (at least not significantly), but very few people like them - even the Tories generally had a lot of supporters during their various tenures.

        I wonder if the author will realise they could do with revising that somewhat misleading/hyberbolic statement, but at least I now have a better handle on what they mean. Cheers!

        Now, if only I could get a physical subscription to the Morning Star here in South Manchester, none of the newsagents stock it, and delivery from their website is too pricey :-(

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      22 hours ago

      Yes, history will not be kind to Starmer. But he won’t be Liz fucking Truss

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        I honestly think we’re all too controlled. You don’t have to go full-on dictator to keep people from rising up. Instilling a strong sense of blind patriotism in the politically conservative people, along with a blanket “violence is always bad” sentiment in the more progressive people, keeps everyone pacified. Half of the people are convinced that everything’s fine because the government said so, and the other half are too scared to fight.