Boiling lobsters while they are alive and conscious will be banned as part of a government strategy to improve animal welfare in England.
Government ministers say that “live boiling is not an acceptable killing method” for crustaceans and alternative guidance will be published.
The practice is already illegal in Switzerland, Norway and New Zealand. Animal welfare charities say that stunning lobsters with an electric gun or chilling them in cold air or ice before boiling them is more humane.
We’ve done a lot of other awful things since forever: forced child “marriages” (or just sexual abuse before then), child exploitation, some form of slavery, have all been a thing for millenia. And yet many societies now frown upon those, punish the perpetrators and help the victims.
What makes you think this (or other awful shit we still do) will be any different?
All those actions are no more or less “in our DNA” then meat consumption.
And, well, vegans have convinced some non-trivial amount of people, as you can deduce by the fact that many companies put “vegan” stickers on their products, because they think it will increase their profits.
example, violence for entertainment. yes we’ve majorly turned against that which is good. child marriage, also good we got rid of that.
meat for food though, that is in our biology. our bodies need the nutrients that come from meat. we are biologically omnivores. yeah we can try to supplant that, but it’s through an artificial means.
I’m all for it, but i don’t think it’s going to be frowned upon in the future and i don’t think all humans can switch over to a plant based diet tomorrow. vegans are too much caught up in themselves to think of the practicality.
This is definitely false. You can live as a vegetarian (i.e. stop eating meat) without any supplemental nutrients.
If you wanna go vegan, you will need to supplement your diet with B12. That’s the only nutrient that can’t be found naturally in plant-based sources. TBH practically speaking, if you’re in the west, you’ll probably be fine nowadays, because most prefab vegan foods (incl. vegan milks) are enriched with B12.
I’m vegan, all I do is take a B12 pills weekly, and all my vitamin levels were fine last time I got a check. I could probably skip the pill if I went out to eat more, or bought more prefab food, but I mostly cook for myself and so don’t get many B12-enriched foods.
Most humans live in cities nowadays, and all of those humans can easily switch to a plant-based diet within a couple of years (which would mostly be redirecting the supply chains for plant proteins from animal agriculture to humans directly). There are some edge-cases where people really do depend on animals (subsistence farming, hunter-gatherer societies, etc). We can deal with those later.
that’s not true
Yes it is. Everything except B12 can either be found in some plant-based foods, or produced by your body. B12 is the only supplement you need.
you are spreading medical misinformation.
Yeah, I guess I’m not entirely accurate, because you can get some tiny amount of B12 from plant-based sources (e.g. nori). But it’s probably not enough, so vegans should supplement it. The rest is probably fine unless you’re blasting junk food every day.
I’m more concerned that you’re asserting everything else is in plant based foods. it’s not and you should stop lying to people before they hurt themselves.