Boiling lobsters while they are alive and conscious will be banned as part of a government strategy to improve animal welfare in England.

Government ministers say that “live boiling is not an acceptable killing method” for crustaceans and alternative guidance will be published.

The practice is already illegal in Switzerland, Norway and New Zealand. Animal welfare charities say that stunning lobsters with an electric gun or chilling them in cold air or ice before boiling them is more humane.

  • Kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Have you ever seen felines hunting? They are fucking psychos by your standards.

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      Judging ourselves by what animals do is a wild take. I guess we’ve just all broadly stopped caring about being human sometime around when “alpha males” became a serious topic of discussion in human behavior.

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        In case you didn’t know, we are animals.

        We should always keep that in mind and stop pretending “being human” is some universal thing.

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          I’ve heard a lot of the world’s worst people use that as an excuse to do the most horrible things, and I despair that so many people readily embrace it as a validation.

          We are animals but we are different than every other animal, and we can be better and do better, and if holding yourself to a higher standard because you were born with sapience is too inconvenient, I’m sure there are some political and ideological groups out there who would love to have you.

          edit: I regret spending any time responding to the obvious trolls in this post. Block and move on people. If you ever find yourself having to argue that we’re better than animals, you’re not arguing with someone participating in good faith.

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            LOL so being against your perspective means validating the worst of humanity? Wow! Such arrogance…

            We can “do better” from our own perspective. We are “sapient” from our own perspective.

            I’m sure there are also a lot of groups of disgusting people you could fit, but how is that relevant? Is it just that you lack arguments and you resort to insulting a person that you don’t know? Is this what you call being “born with sapience”?

            What a petty animal you are…

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              To be very crass, animals also rape other animals, and I hope to god that you will not use “but we are animals” as an argument there as well.

              We are different from other animals in that we are moral agents. We can know the difference between good and bad. That makes us responsible to act upon that difference, too.

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      Cats are neither human, nor do they boil their kills just because they can. Cats kill, yes. Cats are murderous little fuckers, yes.

      However the issue the above poster is talking about isn’t about killing of whatever. Or about eating meat. Their point was about doing it in as humane a way as possible.

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        We don’t boil lobsters just because we can, but because we cook our food.

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        I said felines by the way, so cats AND all others too.

        Have you ever seen lions hunting their prey and eating it from its ass while it is still trying to run away?

        Or playing with their prey before eventually strangling it?

        That’s their way of doing it, it’s gruesome but it’s fine.

        We have our own ways of doing it too, some methods are even considerably more painless than others.

        Also you should note your own use of “humane”, that’s a key point there. All this talk is just human specist nonsense.

        Last but not least, I could even argue (as a human) that it’s ridiculous to judge what killing method is acceptable (and even what is acceptable to eat) based on things like pain, or having a nervous system.

        FUCK YOU AND YOUR SPECIST CRINGE ARGUMENTS! Killing a human, a lobster, a mosquito or a tomato plant is just killing, no matter what lies you tell yourself.

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          Haha, all those words that I didn’t read…and yet I still know they all amount to “I’m an angry tool”.

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            No worries, I understand that it’s too much text to process for some individuals.

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              Yeah, it’s deffo that. And it’s definitely not that you are an angry tool that posts rants about shit that’s got nothing to do with boiling lobsters, haha.