• Credibly_Human@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    were the democrats not in charge after the first trump term an utterly failed to do anything?

    Like passing a huge infastructure package, buying a shit ton more vaccines, attempting to and partially succeeding at college debt relief for a large number of people, imposing a minimum corporate tax rate and more?

    They didn’t do nothing, they just didn’t provide you the world in one term. You were never getting that, and even if magically your perfect government was voted in tommorow, they wouldn’t be able to give you that without a super majority, and even then it would still probably take more than one term.

    More than all of that though, your comment completely misses the rest of my comment to use one part of it out of context to pretend I said changing nothing about the democratic party would be the solution. Thats very bad faith of you.

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      4 hours ago

      no, I’m referring about stopping fascism and protecting democracy and the rule of law

      all else is secondary is everything is destroyed every other turn

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        Are you denying that if people had voted for the democrats just a few percent more this year project 2025 would not have been stopped, as trump likely would be dead when it came time for the next event?

        If people stayed sharp, they would be kept down.

        Of course the DNC could do more. The question is could you, the people, do any less to secure your democracy.

        The DNC is far from perfect, but what they do is out of our control except in the ways I literally covered at the start of this chain.

        I don’t get how people act like there should just be this sudden moment where once and for all fascists will disappear. It will and has always been a continuous fight.

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          Are you denying that if people had voted for the democrats just a few percent more this year project 2025 would not have been stopped, as trump likely would be dead when it came time for the next event?

          we can’t know the alternative timeline where the democrats would have won; but if their past behaviour is any indication they would have acted over confident and let the republicans walk all over them as before

          what we can do is look at the present and easily see that the fascist grab of power is basically complete and there is zero chance they will give up power (last time they literally led an insurrection to avoid giving up power)

          Of course the DNC could do more. The question is could you, the people, do any less to secure your democracy.

          I’m canadian but your are making my point, Americans are too gaslit, selfish and uninformed to even vote rationaly

          I don’t get how people act like there should just be this sudden moment where once and for all fascists will disappear. It will and has always been a continuous fight.

          do you think the magas would be this enboldened if any republican had been accountable?