• CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social
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    1 day ago

    I may be an optimist in some ways, but I honestly expect civilization will persist through “all this”. Though of course, that isn’t really much comfort considering that doesn’t mean that it won’t absolutely suck for the people within it all.

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      15 hours ago

      Civilization is doing pretty well outside the US. If the US disappeared tomorrow, the rest of the world would do significantly better. I don’t know how the world will deal with climate change, but without the US it would be easier to make progress. The tech firms blowing up the AI bubble, and invading our privacy are nearly all American. A lot of the private equity firms destroying the world are also American. If the US could hurry up and finish collapsing, the rest of the world’s civilization could just move on.

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      1 day ago

      The great thing now is that we are currently ending the world, so there won’t be anywhere for that civilization to be.

      Dont say space.²

      If you want a future, kill your masters.

      If you want to kill yourself and everyone else, get yourself some weed and eggs Benedict, and just keep doing what you’re doing¹.

      ¹assuming you’re not spectacularly cool. If you’re spectacularly cool a change in behavior may be required.

      ²Nobody who says that has ever allowed a serious expert into the same room as them. It may not be theoretically possible, we certainly aren’t within a century of unsupported space settlement. We haven’t even sent a person out of orbit yet.

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        24 hours ago

        Agree with your sentiment internet friend, but might want to drop that last sentence. We, uh, did go to the moon, right? Right?

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          24 hours ago

          Moon orbits what? Doesn’t count as leaving. Might be technically out, but kind of only supports my point.

          Also I don’t think we still have capacity to do that as a species, but am not sure where the Chinese space program is focused on so can’t say for sure.

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              23 hours ago

              I’m saying it might technically be outside earth’s orbit, but it is orbiting earth pretty close. So maybe technically but having to reach for a ‘technically’ supports my point.

              And also I dont think we could get a person to the moon and back right now.