• Argonne@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Hamas can surrender and they’ll get water immediately. I don’t see why Israel has to give them anything while their soldiers get killed during the takeover

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      1 year ago

      Israel isn’t just denying Hamas water, they are denying Palestinians water. That includes children and infants and uninvolved innocents.

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                1 year ago

                You’re making vague statements that the children of Gaza should be evacuated, but that’s not a solution unless you can tell me where they would be evacuated to.

                There are two and a half million people in the Gaza Strip. What place is going to accept two and a half million Palestinian refugees? Bear in mind that millions of Palestinians have already ended up as refugees throughout the region and that is already considered a huge problem. Nobody wants even more to deal with. So what country? Even if there were magical teleporters to get them there and everyone was willing to leave their homes forever, who’s going to take them in and support them?

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                  1 year ago

                  Okay well then fuck em I guess. Shrug. We’ve tried nothing and we’re all outta ideas. Without a complete and total answer for [random internet jackass] then nothing can be done.

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                  You honestly expect me to have answers for this? All I can do is vaguely hope that some innocent civilians can escape. That’s literally all I have.

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                    1 year ago

                    If you’re going to propose it as a solution, then yes, I would expect you to have answers.

                    I’m not trying to be cruel. But hope should have some basis in reality, and “evacuation corridors” just aren’t going to be a thing for a significant number of people. The people in Gaza are trapped there.

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      1 year ago

      Few people are worried about hamas. The concern is for the women and children. The people with no say in any of this. It’s not a crime to refuse to resupply an enemy, it is a crime to starve innocent people.

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        1 year ago

        Unfortunately the only right way to go about this is to completely decimate Hamas and force an unconditional surrender then occupy and reprogram Palestinians in the hope that eventually 60 years from now they are able to govern themselves as allies.

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          1 year ago

          Actually the only hope of truly lasting peace is the dissolution of Israel and the creation of a new state that doesn’t limit citizenship and suffrage along ethnic or religious lines.

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            I doubt that would work. If history is to be of any indication then Palestinians also have no desire to co-exist with Israel. If the sides were reversed Palestine would be doing the exact same things as Israel is doing. Arabs want Israel gone and it’s been clear since the state of Israel was officially founded in 1948.

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            1 year ago

            This. Israel never should have been there in the first place. It’s stolen land, ruled by a tyrannical apartheid regime.

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          Noone wins a war of occupation. You either learn to live with conquered peoples and give them access tibequal rights (Roman empire) or completely erase the local population (Europeans in North America).

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      1 year ago

      Same rhetoric as German occupiers claiming that they would not execute civilian hostages as long as Resistance fighters would give themselves up. Sorry for the Goldwyn point but you made it a low hanging fruit.