No. No, I just got something in my eye. I’m fine.

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    10 hours ago

    Are you seriously saying we can’t expect them to do better… because they’re muslim? That is some pretty backhanded islamophobia.

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      I can tell from your reply that you don’t understand Islam and Yemeni and/or Palestinian culture. And calling me an islamophobe is such a liberal thing to say, haha. I expect people to respect other cultures even if they don’t agree with them. I don’t see the point of making Muslims accept homosexuality when it’s a sin to them and that’s what Allah himself said in Quran. I see that you really don’t understand that Quran is a fucking law to Muslims. The best they can and will do is ignore the haram of the West and be very strict about it in their own countries. Our mutual goal is defeating the imperialism, but there will always, ALWAYS be a wall between us and that’s their religion and our secularism.

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        that you don’t understand Islam and Yemeni and/or Palestinian culture

        I lived in palestine for years and regularly attend my local mosque, and although I am not myself muslim, nobody has yet seemed to reject what I have to say on the basis of not being suitably informed on the subject. But hey, maybe your standards are different.

        I don’t see the point of making Muslims accept homosexuality

        “Don’t kill queer people” is not the same thing as “accept queer people”. If “It’s okay for them to kill people because their laws say it is” were valid, then there would be no issue with Israel’s genocide or US imperialism. All the major, objectionable acts taken by both governments have been legal under their laws, yet they are both reprehensible to the point of justifying military intervention.

        Yemen can do bad things, and we can hold them to account for those bad things. Just because they follow their interpretations of the lessons of the recitation does not excuse that those things are reprehensible.

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          I lived in palestine for years

          Then I really don’t understand why it’s so hard for you to understand that those people are very faithful to god’s word and that sharia law has all logic to them. My guess is that they will change their views with time because they witnessed that the gay community stood with them as the oppressed people themselves and that they won’t have death penalties for queer people, more like give them an opportunity to move out from the country. I don’t see how Islam can change in that regard, since Muslims truly believe that Quran is god’s literal word that’s been unchanged for 1300 years.

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            Then I really don’t understand why it’s so hard for you to understand that those people are very faithful to god’s word and that sharia law has all logic to them.

            I’m sorry, that’s not at all what I was trying to say. I understand the culture that this situation exists within, but while I understand how it happened, I do not think it is good that it has happened, or that we should respect that they kill people just because of the strength of their beliefs.

            I don’t see how Islam can change in that regard

            I know many queer muslims, and while I do not see a path forward for implementing queer rights in most muslim countries right now, the existence of so many different muslim groups should show that the quran is not a true monolith - this gives me hope that one day, there really can be peace.