• ℕ𝕖𝕞𝕠@slrpnk.net
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    20 hours ago

    Fiscal conservatism doesn’t work, any economist can tell you that.

    You’re completely correct that conservatism destroyed its reputation when it allied with the religious right in an attempt at political power. The regressives took over the GOP, calling themself conservatives all the while. Terrible to watch from the outside, but like I said, giving up is not the answer. The only thing to do is push back, and try to save what can be saved.

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      19 hours ago

      The only thing to do is push back, and try to save what can be saved.

      Not trying to bait here but what do you want to save and how far back are you going to find something worth saving? Some aspects of fiscal conservatism have their merits but I’m stumped thinking of any good socially-conservative opinions from the past hundred years

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        19 hours ago

        A non-stacked Supreme Court

        The Electoral College

        Human Rights

        Civil Rights

        Checks on Presidential power

        the American melting pot

        Birthright Citizenship

        Separation of Church and State

        basically all of the Enlightenment ideals the country was founded on and have been working towards, it fits and starts, for most of her existence

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          18 hours ago

          I hadn’t considered the Electoral College thing so I’ll give you that…but the rest of the list, aside from the supreme court thing which is non-partisan, are things conservatives (famously) fought against.

          Are you sure you’re conservative? If you really hold those ideals, I think you might actually be progressive…

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            18 hours ago

            This list is all things under attack by the current administration that I want to push back and protect, that’s the point. That was the question I was answering.

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              18 hours ago

              I was moreso asking about the values that used to (but no longer) exist in the republican party as the main change I see is the willingness to let the mask slip.

              Though I am still confused why you consider yourself a conservative when you support all those progressive ideas! I am not a conservative but we seem to agree on a whole lot

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                18 hours ago

                Conservatives and progressives should agree on a whole lot, especially when we’re all trying to fight off an alarming resurgence of fascism, authoritarianism, and illiberalism worldwide. The disagreement was rarely about goals, but rather methods. And right now the method is clear: Get these Nazi fucks out of power, ASAP.