Recent news revealed that Spotify’s CEO Daniel Ek has been investing heavily in military tech companies, which adds another ethical layer to a platform already criticized for how little it pays musicians !

Spotify only pays artists about $3–5 per 1,000 streams, using a pro-rata model that directs most money toward major stars… By contrast, Qobuz (≈$18–20 per 1,000 streams) and Tidal (≈$12–13) pay far more fairly!

However Tidal is far from ethical. Most of its revenue is controlled by private investors and founders and small artists still earn very little…

More fair-minded platforms like Bandcamp, Resonate, Ampled, or SoundCloud’s fan-powered royalties prioritize musicians over investors.

With these more ethical alternatives available, why do we keep using Spotify?

  • Ulrich@feddit.org
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    13 hours ago

    Why would I? Pay $1.49 to listen to 1 song over and over or pay $12 to listen to basically the entirety of human creation any time I want? Not to mention custom playlists and whatnot.

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      11 hours ago

      My music collection spans some 1,700 tracks and several full albums. It’s not difficult to create local playlists, I don’t pay monthly, and I don’t have an excessive data plan because I need streaming. Look at the knock-on costs. It’s not $12/month.

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        11 hours ago

        I listen to probably at least a dozen new songs every day. If I bought them that would cost me $18/day. Or $540/mo. Not to mention the absolute fortune required to store them all locally.

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          I’m in the phase of my life where if I encounter a new track I like in the wild, I’ll buy it. But I’m not seeking out new stuff because (cracks open a PBR and grows a goatee) everything feels homogenized today.

          Perhaps it’s just different use cases. Still, you’re dependent on a company to be able to continue listening to the music you like. That’s worrisome. If a company took away the collection I’ve been building since the '80s, livid wouldn’t begin to explain my reaction.

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            9 hours ago

            if I encounter a new track I like in the wild, I’ll buy it.

            How do you “encounter” new tracks?

            But I’m not seeking out new stuff because…everything feels homogenized today.

            If you’re not actively seeking out new music, it will feel that way, because you’re just listening to whatever is on the radio or on TV or whatever. This is the beauty of streaming platforms. In the past you were only ever exposed to whatever music the record companies decided you should hear. And it was almost exclusively homogenous “pop” music, to some degree. With streaming music you can discover new music every day based on your personal preferences.

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              OK. Lots of assumptions here. I haven’t listened to the radio since the '90s, and I’ve never paid for cable.

              My preferred genres are progressive house and trance, and I got into the rave scene about the time I stopped listening to the radio. I started my collection via fservs on IRC, ratio FTP sites and then Napster and P2P, totally obviating the record labels. I’m subscribed to various music producers on YouTube for when I’m thinking I want something new, and if it makes me cry, off to Beatport I go.

              So, like, not to be rude, but you got every assumption wrong.

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                2 hours ago

                Lots of assumptions here.

                you got every assumption wrong.

                Zero assumptions here, I just asked a question. You said you were, and I quote, “not seeking out new stuff”.

                I’m subscribed to various music producers on YouTube

                So you DO enjoy streaming music…

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                  I’m subscribed to various music producers on YouTube

                  So you DO enjoy streaming music…

                  Even while you are being careful, you are still reading things in. He didn’t say he listens to music on YouTube. It might be a safe assumption but that isn’t what was stated. If you’re going to be pedantic, do it right.

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                    LOL your suggestion is that they said they’re subscribed to various producers but they don’t listen to them? Now that’s pedantic.