Your opinion on the situation in Ukraine put aside for a moment:
The person you replied to made an allegory about what is happening in Ukraine.
You said that is literally what is happening in Gaza.
You drew a direct line from a comment about Ukraine to being about Gaza, too.
Had your comment been something like “lol, no, Ukraine’s full of Nazis. This is literally what’s happening in Gaza though” then it would not have been possible to point to you as drawing the parallel. I do not agree with the parallel, belastend is not my “friend”, and I’d appreciate if you stopped fighting the ghostly liberal you mistook me for.
Moron and holocaust denier, good lord.
I’ll make my stance perfectly fucking clear: nobody should be persecuted or killed en masse, nobody should be invaded, nobody should be marginalised, made less than, othered, abused, tortured, bullied, made a victim of hate, made to live a life in suffering.
I’m not sure what your political stance is, frankly idc, but based on that last sentiment it steers too close to anti-warism, so I’ll just give you the benefit of the doubt this one time, maybe you’ll see what we see:
My meaning from my reply is that monolithizing the two issues with statements like “Both can be bad at the same time, actually!” is drawing a comparison, which is not only tone-deaf, but completely misses the point that @[email protected] made: that entire original comment of OP’s directly applies to Palestinians in Palestine. And it does, it absolutely does, and there’s no denying it does.
The difference here is in the direct applicability of things, sweeping statements like “both bad” especially in the context of Palestine only serve to trivialize issues, it doesn’t offer any specific insight.
It also helps their case that one’s a literal ongoing genocide on an indigenous population while having already been subjugated to 70+ years of ethnic cleansing as a result of Euro-Anglo settler-colonialism (which continues to this day) and the other’s a war the West kicked a hornet’s nest for that started in 2022 between bougies… There’s nothing wrong with sympathizing with the latter, there’s just something wrong with flattening multi-dimensional degrees of suffering and one degree of suffering all into one degree, as if they were on an even-playing field, so to speak. The other difference here is that you get, at best, tone-policed or at worst, silenced and/or jailed, for publicly sympathizing for the former.
And hey: they did not need to preface that Ukraine’s full of Nazis or something to that effect, I seriously don’t see how their point would be “more valid”, even if the prefacing statement was true. Needlessly tone policing like this, a tactic used by libs extensively to derail and dissuade anyone from basically saying anything, isn’t really okay at all…
Your opinion on the situation in Ukraine put aside for a moment:
The person you replied to made an allegory about what is happening in Ukraine.
You said that is literally what is happening in Gaza.
You drew a direct line from a comment about Ukraine to being about Gaza, too.
Had your comment been something like “lol, no, Ukraine’s full of Nazis. This is literally what’s happening in Gaza though” then it would not have been possible to point to you as drawing the parallel. I do not agree with the parallel, belastend is not my “friend”, and I’d appreciate if you stopped fighting the ghostly liberal you mistook me for.
Moron and holocaust denier, good lord.
I’ll make my stance perfectly fucking clear: nobody should be persecuted or killed en masse, nobody should be invaded, nobody should be marginalised, made less than, othered, abused, tortured, bullied, made a victim of hate, made to live a life in suffering.
I’m not sure what your political stance is, frankly idc, but based on that last sentiment it steers too close to anti-warism, so I’ll just give you the benefit of the doubt this one time, maybe you’ll see what we see:
My meaning from my reply is that monolithizing the two issues with statements like “Both can be bad at the same time, actually!” is drawing a comparison, which is not only tone-deaf, but completely misses the point that @[email protected] made: that entire original comment of OP’s directly applies to Palestinians in Palestine. And it does, it absolutely does, and there’s no denying it does.
The difference here is in the direct applicability of things, sweeping statements like “both bad” especially in the context of Palestine only serve to trivialize issues, it doesn’t offer any specific insight.
It also helps their case that one’s a literal ongoing genocide on an indigenous population while having already been subjugated to 70+ years of ethnic cleansing as a result of Euro-Anglo settler-colonialism (which continues to this day) and the other’s a war the West kicked a hornet’s nest for that started in 2022 between bougies… There’s nothing wrong with sympathizing with the latter, there’s just something wrong with flattening multi-dimensional degrees of suffering and one degree of suffering all into one degree, as if they were on an even-playing field, so to speak. The other difference here is that you get, at best, tone-policed or at worst, silenced and/or jailed, for publicly sympathizing for the former.
And hey: they did not need to preface that Ukraine’s full of Nazis or something to that effect, I seriously don’t see how their point would be “more valid”, even if the prefacing statement was true. Needlessly tone policing like this, a tactic used by libs extensively to derail and dissuade anyone from basically saying anything, isn’t really okay at all…