• frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          7 hours ago

          I did. The United States followed everything it says. It just doesn’t say to do very much.

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              1 hour ago

              Not at all. You clearly haven’t read what’s actually in there.

              Clinton didn’t think Congress would ratify strong guarantees. Ukraine itself wasn’t in a position to ask for much more, because it didn’t have the economy to afford to maintain nuclear weapons. The result is an agreement that aggression against Ukraine would be brought up with the UN security council, and that’s about it.

              In providing military aid, the US has exceeded what was promised.

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                Article 5 has:

                such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force

                which might also be thoughts and prayers while Trump is in the White House and

                Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security

                which is basically what was offered to Ukraine.

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                  1 hour ago

                  Nope, not at all comparable. The US does not puppet master the UN Security Council. It can bring the matter up, and it has. Russia has veto power on the same council. Nobody expects anything to come of that, but the requirements were met.

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                    53 minutes ago

                    NATO requirements are also fully met if the US deems that doing nothing is the necessary action and informs the Security Council.