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  • Sure, people can use the presets, but on a lower end machine, those aren’t perfect for getting the most out of your specific hardware.

    If that’s the case then you could play around with individual settings to find something you’re comfortable with. I’ve been doing that since I was 12…

    Sure, he could pay someone to upgrade it for him, but at that point it loses a lot of the benefits that come with being able to upgrade in the first place.

    What? No. The main benefit is that you don’t need to throw anything away. You can even sell the comonent you’re replacing. Would it be more expensive than learning how to do it yourself? Yeah but it’s still cheaper than buying a new computer. It’s also not as wasteful considering that a broken cpu would mean throwing away the entire motherboard on a Steam Machine, whereas you would simply replace the cpu on a normal computer.

    The Fractal Terra is actually larger than all modern consoles. The Fractal Terra is 11.4 liters. The PS5 is 7.2 liters.

    Nope. Fractal Terra is 10.4 liters and the base ps5 is also 10.4 liters. I would even argue that the form factor of the terra is better. The series X is smaller, true but it’s only 6cm smaller in one of the sides of the top and 4cm shorter. I really don’t think that’s that different.

    The steam cube is a lot smaller, sure. It’s also, like I already said multiple times, completely custom and impossible to upgrade. Not worth it imo. We also haven’t discussed the hardware. It comes with 8gb of soldered memory for the gpu. You can see here that that was not enough vram (even at 1080p) for some games over a year ago.

    Knowing “how to use one” is different from knowing how to build and upgrade one.

    Which is precisely why I specifically referred to people knowing how to use it, not build or upgrade it.


  • I don’t agree that it’s that hars to build a pc. Even if it was, saying that adjusting visual settings is complicates is waaay too much. You’d have to be straight up dumb not even be able to use the low/medium/high/extreme presets every game has.

    Also saying that since he can’t build it, he can’t upgrade it, is false. Any “pc technician” can do that for him.

    The size part is also kinda moot. A Fractal Terra is smaller than a console and it can fit an itx build with most gpus.

    Stop normalizing incompetence. We use computers, people should at the bare minimum know how to use them.


  • No, you don’t need to do an introductory year. You also don’t really need to know what’s compatible with what. Tools like pcpartpicker already do that.

    Finally, you’re comparing building a pc with buying a prebuilt, which is something people have been able to do since forever. The argument then becomes, why buy a steam machine with custom parts, which will be harder to fix and impossible to upgrade instead of a mini itx prebuilt with standard parts?



  • It’s not repairable in the sense that it doesn’t use standard parts so whether you can get replacements or not depends on where you are, geographically. If it used a standard atx psu for example, you’d be able to buy that anywhere. Same thing for the cpu, if it used a standard cpu+gpu instead of a custom apu, you’d be able to replace just that if it broke, instead of the whole motherboard. Or even upgrade it if you wanted to.

    Even motherboards themselves have different features. You might need 2.5g ethernet whereas someone else is fine with gigabit but wants better wifi. In my case, I always buy boards with spdi/f to use them with a dac. You lose that flexibility with a device like this.

    Regarding the OS in prebuilts, it’s very common to have the option to order them without Windows. If you don’t know how to install Bazzite, just pay a technician to do it. It will still be cheaper than Windows. That’s not an excuse or impediment.




  • It has a custom soc that is most likely soldered and most of the components (except maybe storage and ram) are custom as well. If you need to repair it, you depend on steam still providing the parts. I doubt the parts will be available in retail stores, so that’s another inconvenience. Upgrading (the cpu/gpu, etc) will also probably be impossible.

    Also, building a pc is a lot simpler than you make it out to be. Not sure what you mean about that “support” bit either. People have always been fixing their computers getting help online. Either from forums or manufacturers.

    To top it off, the “benefits” you’re mentioning are literally the same as if you bought a prebuilt pc.






  • I’ve also had to replace phones for broken USB ports which in the grand scale is probably more wasteful than the extra power use.

    On one hand, yes, your port can break at some point. On the other, why would you throw away the whole phone if the usb port can be replaced? Going even further, you could always use your usb port for charging until it breaks and after that you could start using wireless charging. For data transfer there are plenty of apps and ways to wirelessly transfer data so that wouldn’t be a problem either. At the end of the day, you’re barely using your usb port and you’re also wasting twice as much (or more) energy that you would if you used a wired charger.