There’s a cognitive dissonance on Lemmy. I keep seeing people post the electorate is stupid for electing trump or staying home while also seeing posts like this acknowledging that the democratic party isn’t listening to the constituency. I realize it’s likely very different audiences but this is very much a bubble among liberals which unfortunately make up a large part of the party voting base. They were fine with everything continuing to suck a tiny bit more because the alternative was Trump. I think people are just squeezed and exhausted. They’re tired of being given the narrative that this is the election that will end all elections while things continue to get worse around the margins. And I think the people that would vote for systemic change don’t see Democrats capable of delivering on anything substantive.

Note: This is not an endorsement of Trump or not voting at all as a result. But people really need to reckon with how broken shit is before blaming voters. Democrats have no incentives to fix anything.

JD Vance (and Peter Thiel, David Sacks, Elon Musk) is not a replacement I would welcome in the event of Trump no longer being able to be president.

This is how you get new alliances around the world against the US. This could spiral very quickly.

People about to be surprised that the leopards are eating their faces.

Exactly this. Meanwhile food prices are high, homes and rents are unaffordable, and healthcare sucks, and tuition is through the roof. Biden sending billions to fund a genocide while all of this shit was happening at home was the demotivation people needed to stay home.

When will justice be served for Palestinians?

Well if the US is incapable because it’s crumbling from within, it only makes sense.

Whitewashing war crimes as penetration of Hezbollah is something else. But on brand for western media.

Israel and the U.S. and Israel have been pushing for conflict with Iran for almost a decade and while I’m no fan of the Iranian regime, they have shown extreme restraint considering the saber rattling the west and Israel have done. The militia groups are a direct result of U.S. Israeli aggression toward Palestinians, Lebanese, and Iran directly.

Edit: Minor to opening sentence.

The U.K. government.

Nor do they want to rescue the hostages. It’s all an excuse to carry out death. In Gaza and the West Bank.

Totally unacceptable but an accident so don’t expect anything to change.

lol. So nothing is going to change.

Ok. My phone autocorrected “Israel” instead of a misspelling of “Israelis”. But again. Never implied all or every. Nor did I write every Israeli rioted.

Dude. I have a top level comment. I wasn’t responding to anyone. I responded to the article into which you read another conversation in the post. That’s on you not me.

I think you have an issue with parsing words on a screen. Nowhere in what I wrote did I say every. I said Israel as a whole would look for every opportunity to level Gaza and displace the West Bank. Israelis are not in the streets protesting the IDF ripping up roads of Palestinian cities in the West Bank. They’re not protesting because there are 40k dead Palestinians (possibly as high as 186k which around 8% of the population). They’re protesting dead hostages.

I never said every. You’re burying your head in the sand about what Israel has turned into. And don’t lecture me on Israel like you have any fucking skin in the game. My grandfather was Israeli. I’m a Jewish refugee in the US. It’s not bigotry to factually point out how absolutely atrocious the views of the majority of Israelis are. And how rooted in bigotry it is.

As a Jew who fled the USSR in the 1980s, I fully co-sign Norman Finklestein‘s (a Jewish intellectual and scholar on the subject who lost his family to the Nazi holocaust) assessment that Israel is a sick society.

In October, 58% Israelis polled said that Israel is using too little firepower in Gaza.

In December, they were polled and asked to what extent should Israel take into account the suffering of the Palestinian civilian population. Over 80% said to a little extent.

https://truthout.org/articles/polls-show-broad-support-in-israel-for-gazas-destruction-and-starvation/

I’m Jewish. Go back to policing someone else.

It’s important to understand that this is only because the hostages aren’t returned. If every hostage was returned, Israel would be looking for every opportunity to level Gaza and further displace Palestinians in the West Bank. Israelis rioted for the right of soldiers to rape prisoners.

Edit: Israelis rioted instead of Israel.