I’m not sure that IDF snipers even know how to shoot anything that isn’t a Palestinian civilian.

Bunch of morons just want Israel to stop murdering people.

So what’s the Alternative?

Not shooting children in the face. Is that REALLY hard for you to understand?

Hamas made the hospital into a legitimate target in a war by using it like that.

Oh? Is Hamas a legitimate state authority now? Doesn’t that make the IDF actions a war crime then? I thought they were TERRORISTS which means that this is an enforcement response, not an invasion. You don’t get it both ways. Either Hamas are the state of Palestine or they aren’t, and they can’t make anything a “legitimate target”.

Can’t evacuate, can’t bomb, can’t go in on foot

They can leave…

Should Hamas be rewarded for using their most vulnerable civilians as a shield like this?

Weird argument given that the presence of civilians isn’t slowing down the IDF at all. In fact they seem to have a ton of practice at killing civilians in Palestine. Not very good shields are they?

Since we are proposing questions here, I have one for you:

Where are civilians in Palestine supposed to go? You seem to think that its OK to slaughter them like pigs for going to a hospital. Where should the IDF NOT be allowed to butcher Palestinian children? Seriously, tell me one place that if an IDF bomb blows a bunch of people apart its a bad thing. Is there ONE SQUARE INCH of Gaza in which the IDF is not allowed to shoot a civilian in the face?

Just to be clear: your reasoning here is that if a murderer hides out in an American hospital its totally legitimate just to blow it the fuck up to get at him, right?

Hospital based Hamas “command centers” are starting to feel like “al Qaeda second in command”. Seems like they are magnetically attracted to ends of American ordinance.

Is Hamas not the slightest bit culpable for using a hospital to stage militant operations?

Sure, but the difference is that that the IDF is actively murdering with weapons that we are giving them.

Also, if Hamas is subject to the Geneva convention then they are a legitimate state authority. Are you sure you want to take that position? Because it means that literally everything that Israel is doing in Hamas is a war crime.

You have pivoted your argument from “this government isn’t actually representative of the will of the Israeli people” to “its dangerous to ignore how much more fascist this democratically elected leadership is than the past governments, which were literally made up of the same people.” No shit, this government is dangerous, no one is arguing against that. It is ALSO the government that the people of Israeli have chosen, over and over and over again. Israel is a fascist right wing nation because they have chosen to be that.

It doesn’t really make sense to characterize a prime minster that is entering his (approximately) 16th year in office as being some kind of aberration. If the US elected Trump for four non-consecutive terms as president, I think would be fair to characterize the US right wing as being the norm rather than an aberration. How many times does Israel have to put a fascist in charge before they get a share of the blame for what he does in office?

Thanks for answering. I was wondering if you were just ignorant or actually delusional and that helped.

It is fascinating to me that no one is asking what outcome Hamas was looking for after these attacks. Is no one concerned that Israel is doing EXACTLY what Hamas must have expected them to do? They almost certainly had a plan and doing exactly what the other side expects means your going along with that plan. Hamas had to have known this is what would happen, so this happening is giving them what they wanted: An Israel that is rapidly losing its international mandate while committing atrocities against civilians on center stage in front of the whole world.

Lets just pretend for a moment that Israel has NOT spent the last 50 years murdering random Arabs all over their country. Lets say that tomorrow members of the IDF just lines up a bunch of Palestinian kids against a wall and shot them. Would that be wrong?

And if you don’t want to actually DO any of that work you can just hire a service that already has the accounts to do it for you.

Is it really hard for you to believe that people genuinely don’t think that just randomly murdering thousands of people is bad? That says a lot more about you than it does about me.

You were today years old when you first encountered sarcasm on the internet, apparently.

Why are you still talking about the last two weeks when the entire point of this discussion was about what happened before October? Just say that you only discovered this issue two weeks ago if that is the case, which is getting to be pretty obvious if we are being honest here.

You want me to acknowledge that more missiles would have hit Israel in the last two weeks if Israel didn’t shoot down those missiles? Yeah, no shit. Do you think that proves a point? Israel has very little to fear from Gaza, we already knew that.

How many Palestinians did the IDF kill in an average year before October?

You get that the history of Israeli and Palestinian relations goes back further than October of this year, right?

You can log into like 5 accounts and basically put anything you want to the top of any comment chain given how low the total vote numbers on lemmy tend to be. An actual astroturfing group could curate the entire front page for pennies.

You can log into like 5 accounts and basically put anything you want to the top of and comment chain given how low the total vote numbers on lemmy tend to be. An actual astroturfing group could curate the entire front page for pennies.

Being against blowing up innocent people in their homes is about as far from “pro hamas” as you can be.