Sorry, what exactly is the lesson to be learned from this election, in which the candidate who more vocally supports the genocide won?

If it must be fully spelled out, it is that you cannot rope people whose politics is premised on empathy into supporting genocide and you will lose unless you demand better. If you want to fight against the forces of reaction, you cannot triangulate towards them, you have to actually have a semi-principled political program, not one premised on tokenization and “vote for us or the other guy will kill you even more”.

Every fucking thing she said was scrutinized […]

You are saying this in response to people saying they wouldn’t tolerate genocide.

That’s cool, you got what you want now and Gaza is becoming Israel new beach front.

There have been no policy changes. This is your ghouls running the show, 13 months of unconditional support for genocide. If any part of “the electorate” owns this, it is yours. You did not step up and say, “no more, that is too far”.

Though of course the party does not care about you and they are thr ones making these policy decisions with donor input.

I hope you meet a Palestinian that got family killed someday and tell them that you didn’t support a genocide supporter.

I already know many Palestinians that have lost family. I organize with some of them, their views are my views on this. You clearly aren’t embedded in this community because you assume everyone else is just as detached.

That’ll make them feel funny inside.

Palestinians are not your rhetorical toy to play with when you run out of ways to handle your cognitive dissonance for having sold your soul to support someone that lost anyways. Please take some time to do self-criticism now that you have objective proof that you were not being strategic or smart about this, as you clearly gave up on being morally correct.

Oh my, my type? Goodness, you know, I didn’t see your type either now that I think about it! When I went to protests and meetings in my community

Speaking about this as if they are over and not something ongoing says a lot. I’m leaning towards this just being a lie.

, I’m afraid I didn’t see you there, I only saw people who we trying to actually help people, you know, the ones that knew they were between and rock and a hard place, but actually tried to not hand the government over to a blood thirsty racist, while making sure the community was informed in what steps to take should he win and are now continuing to rally and make their voices heard instead of “not VoTiNg fOr GeNoCiDe” which, you know, kind of got us here.

I have never seen a pro-Palestinian protest with that message. That just sounds like you projecting your armchair liberal takes onto other people.

The people who organize pro-Palestinian protests are socialists and allied Palestinian groups, occasionally JVP. And while JVP is milquetoast and weak, even they aren’t that mealy-mouthed.

But perhaps it’s scary to stand for a belief off of the internet, but I’m unfamiliar with the feeling because my mom didn’t raise a removed.

I wonder what slur you used while calling yourseld a good person.

Don’t worry, we’ll handle it, sport. You just stay safe inside, okay? ♥️

It id also telling that this is the only part of my comment that you replied to.

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Yes, liberals have been scratched and, as I predicted, they have split into two minds:

1. Disbelief and resignation, a depression that can sometimes be broken through with reminders that they shouldn’t have supported genocide.
2. “We’ve gotta get a whole lot more racist”

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No? Why are you making things up?

Name a “certain weapon” and how it is an enforced policy change.

I ask because I already know that there are no real restrictions, Israel has received constant deliveries of the weaoons it uses to commit this genocide.

No there aren’t. Biden even bypassed Congress to get them more weapons faster.

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It is, of course. Matginslization is created and maintained to suit ruling class interests, to ensure you blame the marginslized rather than the capitalist.

Why do you think immigrants are being scapegoated? Did they close the factories or fire the workers?

Normalizing genocide is not a hard choice, it just confronted boilerplate Dem propaganda and any pretense of being a good person.

If you are intetested in doing real political work it will not be something as minor as a single vote for 99% Hitler vs. 98% Hitler.

“Vote for me or my friend here will kill your dog” is the alleged scenario.

Though really the person making that threat is also saying they will kill your dog.

And yet, this very article we’re commenting on is about war crimes getting worse.

Except it isn’t because the US has been continually supolying the arms Israel needs to carry out this genocide and these supposed “restrictions” are a fig leaf.

Again, the Biden-Harris regime provides unconditional support to Israel and its genocide. Recycled clichés about lesser evils don’t apply.

That’s true, there is a difference! While the genocide would receive material support either way, Democrats receive your support and silence while Republicans do not.

alleged “Genocide Joe” bullshit

For a guy who’s only alleged, he sure does support a lot of genocide.

Harris became the candidate without winning a single primary, the only explicit democrstic mechanism in the party itself. She lost to Andrew Yang. She was selected behind closed doors by party insiders and donor input.

Dems have never been democratic, they are a capitalist party by and for the largest business owners and finance. They cannot be reformed. The most realistic electoral option is for them to die like the Whigs and be replaced, though even that will be highly limited by the outsized power capitalists have over the state.

I mean, they still lied plenty, they aren’t on a high horse for pretending to push a ceasefire while providing unconditional support for Israel.

They made a choice to stick by their pro-Israel donors and NatSec ghouls that want clear pro-Israel messaging.

Western liberals live in a fog of thought-terminating clichés that allow them to support The Party regardless of what it does or stands for. One of those ckichés is thst if you disagree with them or don’t support their politicians, you are actually a sleeper agent of the “enemy” faction.

Calling you a Trump supporter isn’t the only variation on this. They do the same re: “Putler” if you criticize US policy tiwards Ukraine and various racist accusations if you are anything less than a sinophobe.

In fact there are already BlueAnon conspiracy comments in this comment section trying to call pro-Palestinian protesters a Russian op. Normally you’d see this kind of logic on your weird Uncke’s facebook page but through liberalism alk things are possible.