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Cake day: June 15th, 2023

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  • I do not see compulsory military service as forced labour, not by a long shot.

    performing labour or 6 months of jail does sound completely unforced

    A country that offers equal rights, universal healthcare and free education for all citizens, amongst many other tax-paid services.

    i am so glad that you have all of that

    If you do not see your own country worth serving, I feel sad for you

    i said nothing about whether i see my own country as worth serving, but your pity is appreciated

    I would gladly give my life to protect mine

    and youll continue to have the option to do so regardless of whether your government continues to threaten its citizens into doing so


  • The issue is you’re confusing compulsory labour with forced labour.

    seems like a you problem, what with you talking about compulsory labour while i explicitly said forced labour

    If you don’t do conscription or civil service work (the alternative option) the consequences are a fine, or jail.

    “youre not forced to do it, you just get tossed in jail if you dont do it”

    In countries at high risk of conflict (eg Taiwan), it’s practically required for their continued short-term existence.

    if a country can only motivate its people to actually protect said country by threatening them into doing so, it didnt actually deserve protection

    and just stops people discussing the actual pros and cons of the practice.

    good, i do not want people discussing the actual pros of slavery






  • i mean palestine not being recognised as an independent nation wouldnt mean that the actual place, or leople there are not recognised as existing or being part of a country

    but also

    The State of Palestine has been accepted as an observer state of the United Nations General Assembly in November 2012.[1][2] As of 2 June 2023, 139 of the 193 United Nations (UN) member states have recognized the State of Palestine. In contrast Israel is recognized by 165.

    On 22 November 1974, the PLO was granted non-state observer status, allowing the PLO to participate in all Assembly sessions, as well as in other UN platforms.[34] On 15 December 1988, UN General Assembly Resolution 43/177 acknowledged the Palestinian Declaration of Independence of November 1988 and replaced the designation “Palestine Liberation Organization” with “Palestine” in the United Nations system.[35]

    • On 23 September 2011, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas submitted an application for membership of Palestine in the United Nations.
    • On 29 November 2012, the General Assembly granted Palestine non-member observer state status in United Nations General Assembly resolution 67/19.
    • On 17 December 2012, UN Chief of Protocol Yeocheol Yoon decided that the constitutional name ‘State of Palestine’ shall be used by the Secretariat in all official United Nations documents.[36]

    if im understanding this correctly, the UN recognises palestine as an independent state to the extent that it actually can but ultimately has no control over whether individual member states actually recognise it as an independent state