• Maven (famous)@lemmy.zip
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    2 months ago

    The blown out of proportion was referring to him not wanting to be sexualized. I don’t think it should be held against an actor that they won’t want to always be shirtless. That’s fine and I respect him for it.

    The problem is everything else.

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      I know, I was pointing out your hypocrisy and selective criticism.

      You still have not acknowledged you hallucinated or lied about the “sexual” part of the accusations.

      Nowhere in your sources does it mention the writer receiving sexual harassment claims, he was the subject of HR complaints, which if you worked in corporate environments you’d know are both extremely easy to weaponize and don’t necessarily have anything sexual about them.

      Calling a colleague a dipshit or incompetent in a public setting would be cause for an HR complaint and neither is even remotely sexual.

      Thoughts, or will you keep ignoring that?

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        I don’t see hypocrisy in thinking that it’s okay for someone not to want to be treated like a sex object while also not liking when that same person treats others differently based on their gender.

        These are unrelated criticisms and can stand alone. I think it is a good thing when actors have a say in how they are presented on screen, especially in a sex sense, and that’s why intimacy coordinators are a thing and should be more widely used.

        As for the second one, you’re right. I misremembered a thing I read 2 years ago about someone who isn’t the main point of what I read. There isn’t much more to it. I’m not perfect, as has been clearly shown throughout this whole conversation. It felt like the lesser of the things brought up since it was a genuine misremembering of what was written and had very little to do with what I was saying.

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          that same person treats others differently based on their gender.

          Yeah, that still needs substantiating.

          I disagree with men a lot in my work, almost exclusively in fact, it just so happens the one person who agrees with my takes consistently is also the one woman in my team, does that make me a misandrist?

          For all we know based on what happened after the writer was fired, and the batshit garbage they turned season 3 into, the disagreements on treatment of the source material were absolutely warranted (and the fan reaction also mirrored that).

          What we have is the word of a bunch of people who fumbled the only big name in their cast because Cavill also happens to have opinions and needed them less than they needed him, versus Cavill who was subsequently recruited for the 40k tv show, another property he’s publicly very fond of where he made sure to also be a producer so he can actually steer the process.

          Had his complaints and feedback been meritless I don’t imagine he’d be given a producer position immediately afterwards.

          I’d like to see something more than “trust me people, he was a total gamer chud womanhater for not shutting up while we crashed and burned season 3” before I go ahead with the misogyny route, especially because all we have to that effect is vaguely gesturing at his treatment of a specific group of women, with no actual events or examples that could be refuted or proven and plenty of valid other possible reasons why this could have happened.

          Also, in other posts you said he was fired from both Witcher and the DCU and neither claims to have fired him. The DCU halted a bunch of products after the Black Adam flop and he stepped down from Witcher himself, unless you have evidence that is not the official position.

          Frankly, it sounds to me like you have a very specific narrative in your head and you’re all too happy to amplify it by adding unsubstantiated details to make it feel more real and worse.