• WesternInfidels@feddit.online
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    4 hours ago

    I like this analogy. One virtue that it has is: Obviously, not everyone can realistically learn to do their own carpentry. It requires a certain amount of time, space, opportunity, capacity for spatial reasoning, and some minimum level of able-bodiedness. None of which are universally available to everyone.

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          1 hour ago

          Yes. That’s how everything works. If you don’t know how to build a shelf by yourself or don’t have the time, you pay a carpenter to do what you want.

          It’s now the carpenter’s problem to make the shelf with the specifications that you gave him.

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            44 minutes ago

            You’re so self-righteous, you’re plowing through stuff without reading what you’re responding to. This isn’t what you said before, and even your clarification makes no sense in context.

            It doesn’t work, anyway. If you can’t build the shelf yourself, what compels the carpenter to make it to your specifications? Even if you paid him? Nothing.

            The trouble is, you insist on framing this in terms of the carpenter’s rights. It’s an impoverished view. No one else is looking at it that way, no one is disputing his rights.

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              7 minutes ago

              You’re so self-righteous

              No need for insults.

              what compels the carpenter to make it to your specifications? Even if you paid him? Nothing.

              Violating a contract has penalties. Yes he can ignore it and then give your money back with the potential of being required to give extra money back because of the contract violation.

              The trouble is, you insist on framing this in terms of the carpenter’s rights.

              It wasn’t my analogy. I’m working with what you gave me.

              disputing his rights.

              Demanding he work for free is disputing his rights.