i’ve been battling this wrinkling phenomenon for weeks. it shows up at random, and i can’t figure out what i’m doing wrong. i’ve changed layer height. i’ve checked the z-offset of the extruder. i’ve lowered acceleration to 1/10th of normal. i’ve lowered the flow rate. i’ve raised the flow rate. i’ve cleaned the plate with soapy water and IPA. i’ve checked for bumps on plate and the bed. i’ve flipped the plate over. i’ve done automatic and manual levelling. i’ve redone the bed compensation calibration like twelve times. i’ve moved and rotated my print. i’ve tried different colours, materials and makes. i’ve dried the filaments to under 10% humidity. i’ve switched extruders. i’ve placed the printer on a mass damper (a 25kg slab of concrete on top of a 2cm thick rubber granule mat). the last thing i did was physically holding on to the extruder as it moved (that’s what that thicker band in the top left is).

this can happen no matter how far along the print i am. it can be fine for the first 300 layers, then start happening on layer 320 and be so serious that the extruder hits the wrinkles and loses its place on layer 330. i’ve been sitting there staring at the printer as it does it and the filament just seems to… come out like that. it doesn’t expand or anything. and sometimes it doesn’t happen at all. the only common denominator is that all the prints that it happens on have large horizontal planes.

i don’t think this is caused by overextrusion of the first layer, partly because it never happens on the first layer, and partially because i did a bed adhesion test:

yeah adhesion is awful here. i forgot to actually clean the plate this time. but the part in the middle is the only one that matters, and that is clean. if anything that looks like underextrusion. i just don’t understand. i think i need professional help. first from the 3d printing community, then from a therapist.

here’s my bed compensation matrix, for reference:

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    2 days ago

    I’d say your print time per layer might be too high, aince the filament looks to be contracting off of the plate as it cools. I’d see if there was a way to speed-up the print time of each layer, or break up the plate’s large surface area with holes or other features to dissapate the stress as it cools.

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      1 day ago

      the parts that are contracting is where i managed to touch the plate, so that’s mostly caused by skin oils.

      Edit: do you think this could be caused by the cooling fan being set too high? i can bump the speed up but i need good surface finish.

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        19 hours ago

        I was referring to the waveyness in the center, though the warping on the esges is partly caused by both the oils and the cooling shrinkage, I believe.

        The uniform buckling of the layer in the middle of the sheet is what I’m leaning on, but I don’t believe that your fan speed is too high, or there would be more seperation between layers as the filament would cool too much before adhering to the layer below.

        I believe there are test STLs that assist in Dialing in your settings for printing plates in particular, but I’m avoiding printing surfaces that large until I get an enclosure built.

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          14 hours ago

          yeah i did one of those test prints yesterday. haven’t looked at the results yet though, hopefully it gets me somewhere