There’s only 1 Caesar, or Slim Shady, or Charlemagne or Attila.

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    Caesar, or Charlemagne or Attila.

    Well, those are fairly uniquely-identifiable names in the scheme of things. “Caesar” isn’t just the guy at your local pizzeria, but THE Caesar of Caesars. “Charlemagne” is a combination of the common name “Charles” and <“great”> as with Alexander. “Attila” is a rarer name, already with a certain stigma, so quite unique in that sense.

    “Alex” / “Alexander” is still a pretty common name today, so it makes some sense that there’d be a qualifier. Not unlike with Peter the Great , Catherine the Great, etc…

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      Also I would say Atilla is usually called Atilla the Hun in most textbooks I saw in the U.S. Also since Caesar became a position/title we still say Julius to specifically refer to him.

      As for Slim Shady, I seem to remember many people standing up to that name

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        Also I would say Atilla is usually called Atilla the Hun

        Good point, and I think I whiffed a bit on that one. “Atilla” is actually a name still used sometimes today across Europe, so “the Hun” definitely adds some helpful context.

        Also since Caesar became a position/title we still say Julius to specifically refer to him.

        You mean, in Italy?

        In the States, I feel like it’s pretty clear that “Caesar” without further context refers to either a leader / dictator / emperor of the Julio-Claudian line, or more commonly to Julius himself. The point being that if you’re referring to one of the emperors, it’s usually necessary to name them, i.e. “Caesar Tiberius,” etc.

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          Yeah now to show our Archilles, I have no idea what else I would call Saladin, but Saladin. Im sure a textbook full names him somewhere… but I haven’t ever remembered it.