• Andy@slrpnk.net
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      20 hours ago

      I mean no offense, but I don’t think this is true.

      I don’t think anyone who makes $200,000 a year is considered poor under legal definitions or under the casual common use of the term.

      You could make $200k and be in debt. You could make $200k and be in a precarious situation. But I don’t think you can make $200k and qualify as in poverty, either legally or in the court of public opinion.

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        29 minutes ago

        You can find elsewhere in the thread where the guy shared the chart about San Francisco. So, what I said is true.

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          I saw it, and it said that a household of eight living on an income of $200k would be “low income”.

          First, “low income” is not poor, either legally or in the informal definition of the word. Even according to the chart you’re referencing, $200k is far above the poverty line. It’s more than twice the cutoff for “extremely low income”.

          Second, this is also based on an absurd qualifier: It’s only “low” if you’re trying to support seven dependents.

          By this logic, $300k a year is poor too (if you’re supporting a household of 12), and a million a year is also poor (if you’re supporting a household of 40 in San Francisco).

          This is silly. If your monthly income is $16k you aren’t poor.

          You can still be broke. You can be in debt. But no: you are not poor.

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            32 minutes ago

            OP didn’t really ask for your definition of the word. OP asked broadly and in quotes. And, yes with a large enough amount of mouths to feed and house, 300k could not be enough to support that and you could be poor. Granted, its unlikely.

            All of that aside, I think you’re just biased because you don’t live in an area like SF. To you 200k seems like a lot of money, so you can’t fathom being poor with that income. Poverty line in parts of the bay area is $150k.

            What you don’t seem to understand is the cost of housing. A 3 bedroom apartment or house (normal boring house) will cost between $5000-$20000/month. That is barely affordable on $200,000 after taxes.

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        20 hours ago

        $200k is not poor in San Francisco.

        It’s still significantly above average, even in San Francisco.

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          19 hours ago

          Licensed childcare runs between $2500 and $4000 per month per child here in the Bay Area; $200k salary is about $150k after tax. Doesn’t take a terribly big family to totally exhaust that amount if both parents need to work to bring it in.

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            17 hours ago

            I’m not saying that you can’t run out of money if you make $200k. I’m saying that it’s not poor.

            If earning well above average in an area with a high concentration of high earners can be poor, the word means nothing.