I get some of the surface level reasons, and those annoy me too. Cramming AI into everything is dumb and unnecessary.

However, I do feel that at a deeper level, it has a lot of useful applications that will absolutely change society and improve the efficiency and skills of those who use it. For example, if someone wants to learn to code, they could take a few different paths. There are the traditional paths, just read or go to school and learn to code that way. Or you could pay for a bootcamp or an online coding education platform. Or, you could just tell an AI chatbot you want to learn to code, and have them become your teacher, and correct any errors you make in real time. Another application is in generating ideas or quick mock ups. Say I’m playing a game of d&d with friends. I need a character avatar so I just provide a description to the AI and it makes it up quick. It might take a few prompts, but it usually does a pretty good job. Or if I have a scenario I need to make a few enemies for, I could just provide the description of those enemies and have a quick stat block made up for them.

I realize that there are underlying issues with regard to training the AI on others work, but as someone who is a musician myself, and a supporter of open source as often as possible, I feel that it’s a bit hypocritical for people to get upset about AI “stealing” work with regard to code or other stuff that people willingly put out there for free for others to consume. Any artist or coder could “steal” the work of others for inspiration for their work, the same as an AI does, an AI is just much more efficient about it. I do think that most of the corporations that are pushing some new AI feature or promising the world or end of the labor force is full of shit, and that we are definitely in some sort of an AI bubble, but the technology itself is definitely useful in a lot of ways, and if it can be developed on a more localized and decentralized scale (community owned AI hubs anyone?), it could actually be a really powerful and beneficial technology for organizations and individuals looking to do more with less.

  • T00l_shed@lemmy.world
    72·
    18 hours ago

    There are upside. Specifically in the medical field, and that’s where it should stay. Everything else is a downside. Humans taking inspiration is one thing. Humans copying directly is called plagiarism, the ai shit is plagiarism. Its taking water from people. Its using more electricity, that’s why they want to build nuclear plants to power them, the tax payer will ultimately foot the bill. Its eating up all the consumer hardware. Driving up costs. Making people stupider. Shoved down our throats everywhere. It hallucinates like mad, its costing people jobs. Its all downsides, except for a niche use case.

    • rabiezaater@piefed.socialOPEnglish
      19·
      18 hours ago

      Your response is a perfect example of the hyperbolic hate against AI I see.

      Why exactly should AI stay in the medical field, but be restricted from every other field? What about medicine makes it worth using, but makes it useless and evil in every other field?

      AI does not copy. It takes things as inspiration and synsthesizes it into something new, just like anyone else. I know an artist who worked for the simpsons. He does a lot of his own work now in the simpsons style. Is he plagiarizing Matt Groening because he is using that style? Or is he just inspired by his time working there?

      No, AI is not taking water from people. AI uses a very small amount of the total water, and industrial agriculture uses thousands of times more water overall. The ogalala aquifer and Colorado River started drying up before AI even came to be.

      From here out are all actually pretty good reasons. The hardware thing sucks, and I wish the government was not so in bed with these companies that they let them just hoard all the hardware like they do. I think the internet in general has been making people stupider for a while, but AI has certainly accelerated it. The hallucination is annoying as shit, but it has gotten better over time, to a certain extent.

      Definitely acknowledge all those down sides. Again though, it’s like any technology that has pluses and minuses. I guess the question is whether we should throw out all the benefits and assume the negatives are unfixable, or should we try to look at how we can solve them?

      • T00l_shed@lemmy.world
        9·
        18 hours ago

        The hate isn’t hyperbolic. Its justified as all the reasons I gave. Just because you see AI as a net benefit, you think my hate is hyperbolic. You’re argument of using “little total water” and “agg using more” are flawed arguments. Its using precious water that we dont have enough of, for useless ai slop. Yes agg uses a huge amount of water, but we need to eat.

        Ai doesn’t take inspiration, its a computer program. Inspiration is uniquely human. Someone who draws in the style of matt G is one thing, a machine that copies the style is not “inspired by”

        Yes it should stay in the medical field because that’s where there is a net benefit.

        • rabiezaater@piefed.socialOPEnglish
          11·
          8 hours ago

          So you’re saying that medical is the ONLY single place where the pros out weight the cons? You said we need to eat, so what about agriculture? What about science/engineeing in general? Why the arbitrary line in the sand at medical?

          Also, if AI is so faulty and flawed, why would you want to use it in situations where lives are on the line, but condemn it’s use for lower stakes situations

          • T00l_shed@lemmy.world
            1·
            8 hours ago

            So you’re saying that medical is the ONLY single place where the pros out weight the cons?

            Yes

            You said we need to eat, so what about agriculture? What about science/engineeing in general? Why the arbitrary line in the sand at medical?

            I said we need to eat in reference to water use.

            also, if AI is so faulty and flawed, why would you want to use it in situations where lives are on the line, but condemn it’s use for lower stakes situations

            Do you know how ai is used in the medical field?

            • rabiezaater@piefed.socialOPEnglish
              1·
              8 hours ago

              I don’t know the specifics, but not sure how that is relevant. Why does the field it’s being applied in make a difference? Is medicine the only field you view as truly impactful and valuable? Or do you really view the down sides as that dramatically terrible that the only possible way those downsides could be justified is by saving a life?

              • T00l_shed@lemmy.world
                1·
                7 hours ago

                I don’t know the specifics, but not sure how that is relevant. Why does the field it’s being applied in make a difference?

                The application for a tool is very relevant.

                Is medicine the only field you view as truly impactful and valuable?

                When it comes to “ai”, yes.

                Or do you really view the down sides as that dramatically terrible that the only possible way those downsides could be justified is by saving a life?

                No, it’s the way it can be beneficial in a very specific use case for research.

                • rabiezaater@piefed.socialOPEnglish
                  1·
                  7 hours ago

                  Again though, why can that use case not be applied other places? Why is medicine special? You seem to have a specific application in mind, so how about you just explain what that is so I can evaluate it on its merits?