Title basically says it all. Would it depend if it was the US, Russia or China starting it?

  • fizzle@quokk.au
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    1 day ago

    Sorry bro. Not gonna happen.

    Australia and NZ really have to stand together just because of the geography. Australia is critical to NZ’s security. If a superior force conquers Australia, then NZ wouldn’t be able to resist in isolation. Logically then it will always be in NZ’s interest to stand along side Australia.

    Similarly, Australia needs a bigger more powerful friend to stare down our neighbors like Indonesia and bullies like China. That friend has been the US for the last 70 odd years, and with AUKUS that alliance will be greatly strengthened.

    In any conflict since the dawn of time people have wistfully hoped that their own clan or tribe or city or country could stay neutral, but the reality is that to maintain your neutrality you need to be strong enough to defend yourself without assistance.

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      23 hours ago

      Australia’s biggest trading partner is China. It’s absolutely against their interest to have any kind of conflict with China. But being a puppet state of the US, they’re probably gonna do that anyway.

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        16 hours ago

        China is everyone’s biggest trading partner.

        Call us a “puppet state” if you will, but we’re not as far up Trump’s ass as a lot of other allies.

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          11 hours ago

          China is everyone’s biggest trading partner.

          It’s not tho.

          Call us a “puppet state” if you will, but we’re not as far up Trump’s ass as a lot of other allies.

          The status of puppet state has nothing to do with whether a country’s leader opts to jerk off a clown in public, its about being willing to sacrifice your own economy for our benefit, and extends well beyond Trump.

          Also: Supporting us in every war and hostile action against countries whose subjugation doesn’t even benefit your own capitalists.