• Arachnidbrilliant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      My grandpa’s in his 90s and he never touched a computer. Whenever we’ve got photos we want to send to him. We have to print them out at Walgreens and then mail them to him. Lol

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    That’s how you know it’s probably a good idea.

    Personally I’d go a step further and regulate algorithmic feeds in general. It’s pretty clear at this point that feeding people a steady drip of content picked to maximize “engagement” above all else has done incalculable damage.

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      One of the biggest things I miss is the old YouTube “algorithm”. Before everything was personalized based on your subscriptions and watch history. YouTube was a rabbit hole, the whole site. I miss starting out just watching some random video and then going on the adventure of different videos leading to all sorts of different topics. I’ve always wondered if there’s a site that can return that algorithm, or if I could somehow replicate it.

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        It feels quaint compared to hearing tiktok videos, which is my new #1 pet peeve. Just the sound sets me off.

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      One of the biggest things I miss is the old YouTube “algorithm”. Before everything was personalized based on your subscriptions and watch history. YouTube was a rabbit hole, the whole site. I miss starting out just watching some random video and then going on the adventure of different videos leading to all sorts of different topics. I’ve always wondered if there’s a site that can return that algorithm, or if I could somehow replicate it.

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      This. Pre-2010 social media, which basically showed a feed with the posts of the people you followed, had a lot less negative impact on people. The engagement maximization strategy multiplies “negative” news, because outrage apparently engages more than good news. And current algorithmic feeds like TikTok destroy attention span and make people dumber.

      And while we’re at it, ban (or at least heavily regulate) dating apps, the only business where the companies sell the opposite product of what they supposedly offer. If people find long-term partners through the apps they would stop using them, so the companies are incentivized to help you not find love and real relationships.

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        Pre-2010 social media still had issues. It incentivised likes and views, which then social media companies capitalized (literally) and then it became a terrible feedback loop. The desire for likes/views is deeply coded in our psyche and can’t change that.

        The problem is and has been humans.

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          That’s why I said less negative impact.

          And we can’t change human nature, but we can force social media companies to change.

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          The problem is and has been humans.

          Well, yeah, but unless you’re suggesting we exterminate the species, the answer must be regulating the way we interact with each other, like the person above suggested.

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            If I have to hear one more fucking second of some random fuckwit on tiktok, I’m voting for exterminating the species.

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              If you hate tiktok so much why are you being exposed to it on a regular basis? I have never once opened a tiktok link intentionally, probably for similar reasons that you dislike the service, but that hasn’t been very hard to do.

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                My coworkers are smooth brains. I don’t have to open it, or have it installed. I hear it in the break rooms, I hear it at the exit computer, I hear it on downtimes.

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              The Usenet user count has never been higher than it currently is, and it very much is social media. What changed is that AT&T and others stopped including Usenet access as part of your Internet plan several years ago so it got a little harder to get to but not impossible.

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                In what universe is Usenet social media? Seriously?

                Usenet is dead. Gone. What remains today is just a shell game of corporate owners. It is nothing like what it used to be.

                Next thing you know you will try and tell me Lemmy is social media.

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            I never had to hear 4x speed laughter, 2X speed music, then 8x speed explanation of something that happened to them that literally only matters to them until tiktok existed. It’s so prevalent for mush brains from teens to late GenX that it makes me want civilization to end. It triggers my ADHD like nothing ever has in my lifetime. Like if I can’t handle that shit, who can?!? Banning that app was the one thing I wanted from the first term.

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      Exactly. Anything conservatives urge should probably mean doing the opposite

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    There is a reason that gambling is regulated (in some countries). Why not do the same for addictive mechanisms in social media? You wouldn’t need to ban social media for children then. 🙄

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    i’m with donny boy here. instead of limiting what people can do, push regulation that forbid corporations from building the kind of software that is bad for your mental health. ban infinite scrolling features, algorithmic feeds, and dark patterns. make the fines equal or higher than gdpr because now it’s about people’s actual health.

    …that’s what they want instead, right?

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      It is already against the law for them to keep data and market to children under 13 and they are supposed to get parents permission over 13. How quaint that you think that they would follow laws.

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    It’s algorithmic, targeted advertising that’s the real problem.

    IMO, the same advert should be shown to all users (at least per country) so that targeting political bullshitting / “advertising” can be knocked on the head, as well as the adverts logged in a public system so they can be reviewed and the funder identified.

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      I would absolutely support a law to ban targeted advertising. Contextual advertising (based only on the content being viewed) is the only ethical form of advertising (if that’s not an oxymoron), and the surveillance apparatus built to enable targeted advertising is going to be remembered as one of the biggest mistakes in human history - if we ever manage to move past it.