• 🍉 DrRedOctopus 🐙🍉@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    i get that if a city has a significant diaspora population with a certain heritage, the diaspora celebrating their culture isn’t a bad thing.

    but that isn’t the case with Zionism, there’s lots of Jews in NY and they do celebrate their culture, but that’s not the same as celebrations a genocidal nation.

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      5 hours ago

      They celebrste a foreign country involved in genocide and colonization. This has nothing to do with jewish culture.

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        5 hours ago

        100% agree. just wanted to say that diaspora celebrating their heritage is a normal and a good thing.

        But Zionism isn’t that. Especially considering that the Jewish communities in NY were built by the non Zionist jews who fled Europe, while the Zionists went to destroy Palestine.

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          5 hours ago

          Your comment is irelevant to the topic because this post is about israel parade day not judaism parade day. They can celebrate the culture in International Jewish Day on August 2nd

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            2 hours ago

            Good

            The fact that an illegitimate state has an annual celebration parade in another county is fucked

            Fuck Israel and fuck Zionists

            was replying to that, Just saying that celebrating another country isn’t necessarily bad, an outward claim like that can be racist. Zionism bad. but I’m afraid of statements that might be racist dogwhistles.

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              Celebrating a genocidal state is never s good thing. It is like celebrating Nazi germany. Like I said there is multiple real jewish culture events

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                1 hour ago

                I think we’re accidentally stuck in a loop where we’re both in agreement.

                Fuck zionism in all of it’s forms, it shouldn’t get parades.

                I just wanted to add a caveat that it is 100% ok to celebrate the cultural heritage of communities in your city. And “Israel” isn’t one of those.

                Because the original statement could be misconstrued into a xenophobic statement. I assume it wasn’t, but still, that should be said.

                And again, FUCK ZIONISM. Fuck it with a syphilitic cactus. Just got banned from a community for saying Fuck zionism in a more colorful language.

                Personal, I’m dedicating so much of my energy fighting zionism, I’m literally building a local Bund revival, as well as weekly protests and help organize Palestinian events. So please, don’t assume I’m a zionist.

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                  Your caveat is off topic . This post is about celebraring israel not judaism. Yet you keep repeating the same off topic statement that have nothing to do neither with the post and neither with the person you replied to.

                  I never called you a zionist either

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                    46 minutes ago

                    not really off topic, claims like people should celebrate foreign States can be iffy.

                    Polish are allowed to celebrate polish heritage, Thai communities are entitled to their events. Israel does not. not just because it’s a genocidal state. but because it doesn’t has a major diaspora.